Vw Tdi Able to Sell Again
- #iv
I'd put the odds at 1:10,000. They basically wore out their welcome with the illegal stuff.
- #6
I'm gonna become against the grain and say nosotros will see diesel come back.
Diesel fuel wont be phased out anytime soon because of over the road hauling. Electrical simply doesnt take the range that a diesel big rig does, and then nosotros are going to be reliant on it for a while longer.
Plus await at how proficient the buyback TDI'due south are selling. I'thousand seeing more on the route today than I was before the scandal. I think people are piece of cake to forgive and forget, especially if Vw can evidence to everyone (including CARB and the EPA) that the cars are legitimately equally clean as they claim. And I can guarantee, IF Vw wants to bring them in, they will be HEAVILY scrutinized earlier they are certified for employ on our roads.
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- #9
I'g gonna go against the grain and say we will run across diesel come dorsum.
Diesel fuel wont exist phased out anytime soon because of over the road hauling. Electric merely doesnt have the range that a diesel large rig does, so we are going to be reliant on it for a while longer.
Plus look at how good the buyback TDI's are selling. I'm seeing more on the route today than I was before the scandal. I think people are like shooting fish in a barrel to forgive and forget, particularly if Vw can bear witness to anybody (including CARB and the EPA) that the cars are legitimately as make clean as they claim. And I tin can guarantee, IF Vw wants to bring them in, they will exist HEAVILY scrutinized before they are certified for employ on our roads.
I'one thousand with Fixmy59bug. Diesel is far from dead and not going to get abroad tomorrow.
My next vehicle probable will be a diesel pickup truck to be able to get a diesel vehicle. I'm condign more of a truck guy besides. I wish I had kept the 08 Ford F-350 SuperDuty vi.4L PowerStroke Diesel pickup truck I owned several years agone. While my BMW diesels are long term keepers, I miss that truck and wish I had kept it. I didn't call up I would miss it as much as I do when I sold it. At the time information technology was hard to justify owning 3 vehicles when I am the only driver of them. I volition probably have another diesel pickup truck again in the future.
Any I ain and drive absolutely HAS to exist Diesel fuel powered. Gassers including gasser hybrids are not an option at all. BMW made a business organization decision to end selling their diesel vehicles in the USA after 2018. That caused me to make a business determination too. BMW not returning with diesel fuel vehicles ways I won't be returning to BMW as a client in the future. Volkswagen already lost me as a future repeat client due to no more than TDIs later the Dieselgate scandal. I had already moved on from VW TDIs to BMW Advanced Diesel before the Dieselgate scandal broke.
The diesel pickup truck market is already well established has not been threatened at all by the Dieselgate scandal. I am willing to practise whatever it takes to continue owning and driving simply Diesel fuel vehicles. Diesel pickup owners are our friends in this instance.
- #12
At IDParts we estimate that the buyback cars will be around and in agile service for some other ten years at to the lowest degree. We've been surprised that parts sales for ALH and BEW cars have been essentially level for the by 10 years, with a small spike in sales when folks sold back their CR cars, bought MKIVs, and dumped thousands into them to bring them upwardly to snuff. If in that location's nothing out at that place to supersede the buyback cars people are driving I suspect they'll be around for a while.
- #xv
Dieselgate did hurt the light duty truck market place. It delayed the launch of the Canyon/Colorado by about one-half a twelvemonth due to EPA requesting more testing and recertification. GM learned from this lesson and waited longer to launch the diesel in the 1500s, trucks and SUVS.
It hurt the Ram by the courts deciding the Fiat had to be hiding something in thier programming and forcing them to accommodate the emmissions software. Lots of talk near a new class action lawsuit over the "fix". FCA has an agile retrieve to reflash all of the fixed truck for a tertiary time. The also had to bargain with a stop auction of over half a year on the 17s. The 17s were subjected to the aforementioned software changes without compensation or getting the updated flash.
Dieselgate also delayed the launch of the F150 diesel fuel, merely then Ford took care of anyone really wnating i by only offering on the height couple of trims and designing the engine to eat bolts.
But at least Mazda is offer u.s. a new Skyactiv-D
- #16
Based on the sales figures, I don't call up skyactiv d will hang around for long in this market.
- #17
Likely not, but if you tin can notice a CPO one in a year or 2, they should be priced attractively (one hopes...).
- #18
I doubt they'll bring information technology dorsum, but if they did, I'm sure VW would have tons of former customers come back. I would sell mine and buy a new one only for the newer safety tech if they brought them dorsum. Since I know they're not going to bring them back, I'll keep driving my 15 Passat TDI. I had my bug with it, just I love the dang affair now that information technology'south working over again, lol. When I was younger I didn't see why anyone would want to keep an old car, but at present I sympathise and am one of those people. If something happened to my car where information technology was totaled or something, then I would most probable buy another to replace it.
- #xix
Referring to a '15 Passat as an onetime car made me smile. My '15 GSW is the newest motorcar I own. Oldest is a '93 Mercedes 300D, followed by a '97 Passat. That car is nevertheless a pleasure to drive despite being 22 years erstwhile and approaching 300K miles. Lots of life left.
If diesels don't come back i think I'm set for TDIs for the remainder of my life, if necessary.
- #20
My new car is an "05 Jeep CRD. {)
Just besides my "ten Golf TDI got totalled, much happier with the "02 .
I'm suspicious of the new & improved "features", I want to drive the car,
not a bunch of sensors in command.
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- #22
Based on the sales figures, I don't think skyactiv d will hang around for long in this market.
Considering we have been sitting on our initial CX-5 D since nosotros got it concluding JULY, coupled with the fact that Mazda just IS NOT advertizing them AND that they offer almost NO benefit over the gasoline versions, its a dead horse earlier even leaving the gate.
- #23
I'm gonna get against the grain and say we will run across diesel fuel come up back.
Diesel fuel fuel wont be phased out someday before long because of over the route hauling. Electrical just doesnt have the range that a diesel big rig does, so we are going to be reliant on it for a while longer.
Plus await at how adept the buyback TDI'due south are selling. I'chiliad seeing more on the route today than I was before the scandal. I think people are like shooting fish in a barrel to forgive and forget, particularly if Vw can testify to everyone (including CARB and the EPA) that the cars are legitimately as clean every bit they claim. And I tin can guarantee, IF Vw wants to bring them in, they volition be HEAVILY scrutinized before they are certified for use on our roads.
If I rubbed my finger inside the tailpipe of my (deceased) 2010 JSW, there wasn't any sign of soot. I didn't like the complication of the emissions system, (etc.) but it was a 'clean' auto in my book...
- #24
I am with you on this, Information technology is hard to observe an electrical machine with range while towing. My little TDI even so gives me 29 mpg when the trailer is attached to it and I tin can peak up the tank pretty much anywhere in minutes. Electrical has lots of catching upwards in this example.
Battery 'density' (charging ability-length of charge) has to increase by a factor of 15, before batteries tin can equal gasoline. In the entire history of battery technology, 'density' has but increased by a factor of 10.
If an Li-O2 battery can be successfully developed, the internal combustion engine volition autumn by the wayside, like film cameras vs. Digital did well-nigh twenty years ago...
- #28
Maybe I am mistaken on this ane, simply didn't the Dieselgate Agreement with the United states of america regulatory agencies bar VW from importing whatsoever more diesels to the Usa?
No. The understanding prevented VW from exporting the cars they bought back. The easiest and cheapest affair to practice would have been to buy back the TDIs and export them to a country with lower emission standards. The EPA made VW either fix them or fleck them but they couldn't leave the USA.
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